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HP questions
Quote from Reaper of Ghost Gum Pie on February 12, 2019, 6:47 amI haven't read/watched HP past book 5, everything I know past that is from fics, so I'm not always sure what's cannon or fannon. So I have a few questions about cannon.
- Grindewald. Is G being in Nuremberg actually verifiable, recorded fact, or is it something that everyone just "knows"? Or is he held there while everyone thinks Dumbles killed him? How widely known is his fate?
- Harry's interactions with the Hallows. I know he's considered the master of all three, but is there any point where he has all three in his physical possession at the same time? If he does, does he use one of the Hallows while all three are on him? Is it before or after he kills Voldie?
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I haven't read/watched HP past book 5, everything I know past that is from fics, so I'm not always sure what's cannon or fannon. So I have a few questions about cannon.
- Grindewald. Is G being in Nuremberg actually verifiable, recorded fact, or is it something that everyone just "knows"? Or is he held there while everyone thinks Dumbles killed him? How widely known is his fate?
- Harry's interactions with the Hallows. I know he's considered the master of all three, but is there any point where he has all three in his physical possession at the same time? If he does, does he use one of the Hallows while all three are on him? Is it before or after he kills Voldie?
Thanks
Quote from Keira Marcos on February 12, 2019, 8:27 amGrindelwald. Is G being in Nuremberg actually verifiable, recorded fact, or is it something that everyone just "knows"? Or is he held there while everyone thinks Dumbles killed him? How widely known is his fate?
https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Gellert_Grindelwald
https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Nurmengard_Castle
Eventually, Grindelwald is killed by Voldemort IN Nuremberg so it appears that it was known that he'd been imprisoned by Dumbledore there in 1945. I think we won't know the nitty-gritty details until it happens in the Fantastic Beast movies.
Harry's interactions with the Hallows. I know he's considered the master of all three, but is there any point where he has all three in his physical possession at the same time? If he does, does he use one of the Hallows while all three are on him? Is it before or after he kills Voldie?
First year - inherits the cloak
Sixth year - Master's the Elder Wand but it is buried with Dumbledore
Seventh year - inherits the stone from Dumbledore, later he drops the stone in the forest before he sacrifices himself to Voldemort
He takes the Elder Wand from Voldemort during the final confrontation - but he no longer had the stone.
At no point in canon did Harry have all three objects in his possession at the same time. However, after he was given the stone by Dumbledore in the defunct Snitch -- he was the Master of Death as he had already become the master of two other Hallows despite the fact that he didn't have the wand with him.
* This is the sequence as I remember it from the books. I've never watched the movies so if it's different ... eh.
Grindelwald. Is G being in Nuremberg actually verifiable, recorded fact, or is it something that everyone just "knows"? Or is he held there while everyone thinks Dumbles killed him? How widely known is his fate?
https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Gellert_Grindelwald
https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Nurmengard_Castle
Eventually, Grindelwald is killed by Voldemort IN Nuremberg so it appears that it was known that he'd been imprisoned by Dumbledore there in 1945. I think we won't know the nitty-gritty details until it happens in the Fantastic Beast movies.
Harry's interactions with the Hallows. I know he's considered the master of all three, but is there any point where he has all three in his physical possession at the same time? If he does, does he use one of the Hallows while all three are on him? Is it before or after he kills Voldie?
First year - inherits the cloak
Sixth year - Master's the Elder Wand but it is buried with Dumbledore
Seventh year - inherits the stone from Dumbledore, later he drops the stone in the forest before he sacrifices himself to Voldemort
He takes the Elder Wand from Voldemort during the final confrontation - but he no longer had the stone.
At no point in canon did Harry have all three objects in his possession at the same time. However, after he was given the stone by Dumbledore in the defunct Snitch -- he was the Master of Death as he had already become the master of two other Hallows despite the fact that he didn't have the wand with him.
* This is the sequence as I remember it from the books. I've never watched the movies so if it's different ... eh.
Quote from Reaper of Ghost Gum Pie on February 12, 2019, 9:09 amCool. Thanks, Keira.
Did everyone know Voldie killed Grindelwald, like was it in the papers? Or did he do it quietly.
Before that, was it officially & widely known in the Wizarding World that that was what Dumbles had done with him, or did people think differently?
Cool. Thanks, Keira.
Did everyone know Voldie killed Grindelwald, like was it in the papers? Or did he do it quietly.
Before that, was it officially & widely known in the Wizarding World that that was what Dumbles had done with him, or did people think differently?
Quote from Keira Marcos on February 12, 2019, 9:12 amI think it had to be officially known where Grindelwald was and that he was secure as he was the Voldemort of his time. That being said, details are sketchy in the books.
As to when it became widely known that Voldemort killed Grindelwald -- I have no clue.
Again, I think we'll get the details in the Fantastic Beast movies (I imagine the legendary duel) will take place in the 3rd)
I think it had to be officially known where Grindelwald was and that he was secure as he was the Voldemort of his time. That being said, details are sketchy in the books.
As to when it became widely known that Voldemort killed Grindelwald -- I have no clue.
Again, I think we'll get the details in the Fantastic Beast movies (I imagine the legendary duel) will take place in the 3rd)
Quote from Reaper of Ghost Gum Pie on February 12, 2019, 9:15 amThanks
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Quote from Keira Marcos on February 12, 2019, 9:17 amThe wiki says about Grindelwald:
In 1945, upon being found by Dumbledore, they engaged in a duel of such legendary proportions that eyewitnesses stated that it was the greatest duel ever fought between wizards. Despite Grindelwald's mastery of the Elder Wand, Dumbledore had ultimately triumphed over Grindelwald due to being, in his own admission, a "shade more skillful", thus becoming the master of the Elder Wand in the process, and brought him to the authorities of the magical world, resulting in Grindelwald ironically being imprisoned in the topmost cell of Nurmengard, which would serve as his residence for the remainder of his life
The wiki says about Grindelwald:
In 1945, upon being found by Dumbledore, they engaged in a duel of such legendary proportions that eyewitnesses stated that it was the greatest duel ever fought between wizards. Despite Grindelwald's mastery of the Elder Wand, Dumbledore had ultimately triumphed over Grindelwald due to being, in his own admission, a "shade more skillful", thus becoming the master of the Elder Wand in the process, and brought him to the authorities of the magical world, resulting in Grindelwald ironically being imprisoned in the topmost cell of Nurmengard, which would serve as his residence for the remainder of his life